happened the truck, the prison truck went through a tall in norman de then we saw according to the police, a persia ram into the front of it get out. these men with guns they appear to have been joined by men from another truck following behind. you'll see all this unfold, told they shoot prison offices officers die or injured and then amara gets away. and this is the result a massive manhunt, hundreds of officers trying to track them down and to think that it appeared on camera as well. and as you can see, john is all in broad daylight around 11 in the morning. so a very scary situation and obviously thoughts with the prison officers there there are big demonstrations today about the the safety that they're afforded in these situations. am are was on his way to court, by the way, for a burglary charge what a brazen brazen

attack. all right. max foster, keep us posted on the developments here. thank you very much. and we have a brand new our with new news coming in and seeing a new central starts right now donald trump's former fixer blasted by the defense fiery cross-examination. >> trump's lawyers that using a day off today to prepare another round of tough questioning for the man who says the former president plotted a scheme to cover up a hush money payment to a porn star. now with less than six months to go until the election, president biden saying the poll numbers aren't accurate, but should democrats be more concerned plus, the future of human creativity up in the air, google showing off new ai features that many online publishers fear could put them out of business. i'm sarah sayyed or john berman, kate is on assignment this is cnn news central so this

morning, what will donald trump's lawyers ask? >> next? what will michael cohen say next? and how much more explosive could this cross-examination get as everyone really spends the next 24 hours preparing for the new round with me. cnn is brynn gin grass and cnn legal analyst jennifer rodgers. a brynn firstly, you thank you. first of all for letting me join you outside the courthouse yesterday. you hosted me down there look, what were your main takeaways from the cross-examination which began really with a bay. >> it did begin with a bang, but i feel like they're just getting started to write. we do know that they are actually going to spend the whole time tomorrow likely doing cross-examination. it says essentially todd blanche was using michael cohen's words from his book, from his podcast to attack him and get him to what, i'd show for jurors, what they believe that he's profiting off of donald trump, that he's out for vengeance, that he just really has flipped

on them. and once everything bad to happen to donald trump, i think at some point during the trial he called trump with his own words again, boorish, cartoon massage genus that cheeto-dusted cartoon villain and trump percent rather michael cohen's just said, yeah, that sounds like something i would say. but he's really trying to they're trying to show that he's really made a living off of donald trump and they also went back in time when he was complimentary to his former boss and michael cohen said this, that's when i was knee deep in the cult of donald trump so that was pretty interesting too. obviously trying to show some flip-flopping here prior to that we did here the prosecution wrap up that whole narrative that he was on the stand for about eight hours going through all of what we've been hearing from witnesses before, corroborating what we have heard and essentially talked about the moment that he did turn on donald trump. it was after that fbi race aid, they went through his criminal history and at the end of it, there was a moment where the prosecution says, did you regret it? and this is how michael cohen responded, says,

i don't regret working with the trump ganization as i expressed before, some very interesting great times. but to keep the loyalty and to do the things that he had asked me to do. i violated my moral compass and i suffered the penalty as has my family. so that was a really striking moments and maybe somewhat credible to jurors will have to find out jennifer, i'm curious what you thought of how he answered these questions. >> i mean, the the cross-examination was brutal. just one thing after the other. they did not go in sort of succession as to how things happened. how did michael coleman handle this? >> i thought generally he did pretty well. there was a little bit of fighting with todd blanche about is it a lie? is it? inaccurate those sorts of things don't do well for the witness, right? you don't want to fight. but generally, i thought he did well, he kept his cool. he answered the questions. he was firm about what he wanted to say. and i thought that the todd got into the weeds a little bit too much to be honest with you. i think

if it goes all day tomorrow, that's at mr. stay across his best use as a blunt force instrument, you want to get in, be brutal, but be quick about it. the longer drags out, the jury loses interest and that's not what you want on class. >> i asked this before to joey. i'm curious if this jury does believe michael cohen has the defense yet done anything to get their client a not guilty verdict? all they focused on is michael cohen's a bad guy. they were talking about the case well, if they believe michael cohen, it's over, it doesn't matter what todd blanche does to be honest with you, because michael cohen makes the case, but there are some substantive things i think they can do. >> they elicited for example, how much michael cohen was making and when you add together his salary plus bonus, it's not far off from $420,000, so i expect them to argue, listen, trump didn't know he signing these checks. he is still his personal lawyer. he's still going to be paying him. that goes to the intent. but the question is a strategic one. do you do that? that in cross tomorrow or do you wait for the opportunity to

do it in closings because if they do it tomorrow, then prosecutors can come back and tried to clarify. no, no. here's how you know that that was for the payback and not for a salary. so he has some strategic decisions to make tomorrow. we know they'll continue to hammer away at the bias points honestly, you start to lose steam when you do that over and over again, the jury's heard it, they're ready to move on. >> i can't keep stop thinking about what's going to happen. i know after cohen, even though this has been really explosive, i mean, what is ductus defense? do who do they call? do they put on a case or do they say, look, we feel like we proved it with our cross-examination. >> i suspect they won't do anything. they've certainly not going to call donald trump. the one thing they might do is this election lawyer expert to talk about whether that was a crime or not? that's the only thing i can see. >> you got some reporting on on what's gonna happen after cohen? yes. yeah. so we're expect the prosecution to rest and then yeah, we'll have to see who the defense calls. i agree with you. i don't think they're going to be calling donald trump. i do think it's still interesting. we talked

about this yesterday, is how do you fill that void of allen weisselberg? obviously, he's not going to be called to the stand. i think as a juror, your hearing, allen weisselberg, you talk about all the all the nodes, all the calculus since he's the one that made the nodes here. donald trump told him to talk to alan like who's this allen weisselberg, if i'm a juror, so i do think that's something that i don't know where you go from there. >> i just want to read one more exchange. this was indirect yesterday. welcome, cohen, still face question for prosecutors before todd blanche started swearing in front of the jury yesterday, and this was an exchange that gets to the heart of the case and clearly the prosecution wanted another bite at this apple, after their first de the prosecutor, susan hoffinger asks, why in fact, did you pay the money to stormy daniel's? it's michael cohen says to ensure that the story would not come out, would not affect mr. trump's chances of becoming president united states. hoffinger says, if not for the campaign, mr. cohen would you have paid that money to stormy daniels? cohen says, no, ma'am. todd blanche, the defense attorney says objection. the judge has overruled. you can answer cohen says no, ma'am.

and then hop and your asked at who's direction? and on whose behalf did you commit that crime cohen says on behalf of mr. trump, i feel like those are important words legally from the prosecution and the fact they did it on day two with michael cohen tells us something. what is that? >> well, they go through the story, right? and you get the pieces that you need to put it all together and summations, but you want to also sum it up at the end of your direct for the jury, just so there's no mistake here, right? michael cohen's role is to give the story, but also to say, i did this, but i only did it because of trump and at trump's direction. right. we need to have donald trump's content not michael cohen's to find a conviction here. so that's what they're doing. just put it all together for the jury less, there be any doubt. this is why i did it. and then they can hand them over for jennifer rodgers branch and grass i know you've been on this the whole time and there is plenty more to go. cross will continue tomorrow. i'm sure it will be heated. all right.

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moments ago where he said that he will debate trump two times in this upcoming election. take a listen to what the president had to say. >> don't show plus two debates to me in 20 said he hadn't shown up for debate. now he's acting like he wants to debate me again or makes my day pal, i'll even do it twice. plus pick the dates down. i hear you're free on wednesdays now the biden campaign is saying that they want to have debates held earlier in the process. >> this a letter that was sent to the commission on presidential debates from jen o'malley, dillon outlines are requests for the president and trump to debate twice in this election cycle, once in june, once a former president trump's a criminal trial up in new york ends, and then another time in early september 1 are the items that they are pointing to is the fact that they want to have these debates play out before early voting begins and ends in many of these key battleground states, now, biden has been saying that he is willing to debate trump

just last week here at the white house, he was asked by a reporter when he would do hold that debate and he said set it up in an interview with howard stern, just last month, he said that he's happy to debate trump, but really didn't get into the details of exactly when. but we will see what the trump campaign has to say uh, going forward, trump himself has also called for earlier debates, the republican national committee had previously vote, voted not to participate in cps d debates. but certainly even as the biden campaign is putting forward some suggestions, this will all have to be agreed to by the trump campaign as well. but president biden in this new video this morning, making clear that he wants to debate trump twice even as the cpd has scheduled three debates to occur in the fall all right. arlette saenz. thank you. jeff zeleny. i gasped when i saw the attack that biden just made saying i heard you're free on wednesdays, two former president donald trump, who is

off court on wednesdays. what do you make of this? and what might this mean? because they're on the one hand, they're saying yes, we want to do two to base, but we don't want to do what is already potentially in place well, sir, you picked up on the shade there that president biden was throwing to his rival. >> but let's translate that a little bit. what this means is as are, let was just explaining, this is very significant get it means that one central question has been hanging over this rematch. >> are they're going to be debates and president biden now firmly saying, yes, he will agree to a two debates in june and early september. >> we will see what the trump campaign assess to this. but at every recent trump rally, there has been an empty sodium that says anytime any place. so donald trump is out there saying he will debate interesting in this letter is we're just reading it here from jen o'malley dillon, a top campaign adviser sort of outlining all of this, also saying one-on-one debates only so that would exclude if this

is if this comes to pass, that would exclude a debate with robert f. kennedy jr. and of course that is a central question as well, hanging over this campaign. is this going to be a one-on-one contest or is this going to be a debate where he is allowed to participate? so all these things of course, will have to be worked out. but very significant the timing of this. and one of the reasons for that, really the timing of voting has changed in america, voters now we're going to the polls much earlier in some respects, a month before the traditional election day, if you will. so the earlier schedule that was laid out by the commission on presidential debates, i was just looking it up. the earliest one was supposed to be september number 16th, followed by september 25th with the final debate on october 9. now, under this new plan that president biden's team is proposing the debates would be over by then one in june when an early september. so we will see how the invitations for these debates come forward to the trump campaign agrees, but those are the significant things earlier debates. >> and a one-on-one beit with

that shade thrown in. here, you're free on wednesdays, perhaps a bit gratuitous because they said after the trial is over here, but that is certainly the state of things here. the debate over debates is just the beginning, but it looks like we likely will have debates in this presidential campaign. sarah i think we can expect a response in 321 from donald trump on social media, at least are led signs and jeff zeleny. thank you so much for that new reporting. again, we're just hearing this breaking news that a joe biden president, joe biden says he will debate donald trump twice, but he wants to be one-on-one and there's some other conditions, john, as soon as june, which is remarkable and i have to say also, i'm not sure that was shade as much as like a full moment of totality that was a full scale blackout from president biden toward donald trump there in that video, what is the state of the race right now, perhaps what's the background to this channel? challenge from president biden to donald trump. by that, i

mean, where did the poll stand right now with cnn senior data reporter harry and inherited look, you've caused a little bit of a stir, a little bit on social media the last few days merely by reporting what the swing-state polling has shown, which is president buying, trailing donald trump in the key swing states, how much can things change between now and then? >> yeah, a lot i'm not sure how much can chain change between now and june, but there's a lot that can change between now and the general election. so i just want to go back through history polls are a snapshot in time. all right, so i went back since 1,972 how far are the poles off at this point on average, they're off, get this by six points. they've been off by as large as 15 points. michael dukakis was ahead of george hw bush at this point in 1988, by high i single-digits, it was actually george hw bush who won by high single digits and keep in mind trump's only up by a point at this, at this particular junction. so the fact is the polls can shift a lot. yes. joe biden is in

trouble but we'll see where we are a month, two months, three months, five months, six months down the road. >> when it comes to battleground polls in general, how accurate are they? yeah. so this is looking at the national polls at this point in time. >> what if we looked at the battleground polls on the day of the election? all right, so go back again since 1,972 they're off by an average of four points. they're off by an average of four points in 2020, they were a little larger. the arrow is a little larger, was five points. and of course, most of those polls underestimated donald trump. the key thing to keep in mind here in those pivotal battleground states in the great lakes, michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin, donald trump is ahead, but only by between one and two points. so yeah, you would consider him favored, but if there's one lesson we've learned over the last few cycles, john, it's do not take pulse to the bank, especially when the margins or as close as they are right now. >> and who do the polls tend to be wrong four, right? so one of the chief complaints that bind

them to democrats have as in 2020 to the polls, underestimated, democrats, right? in 2020, it was republicans in 2022, the joe biden, the democrats like to argue that the pulse underestimated democratic. now that was true in the key battleground states of michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, those major races, the polls on average, underestimate the democratic camp and it's by about five points. but if you look nationally, look at the national house vote, the polls actually underestimate republicans by about two points. so i'm not necessarily sure you could look at 20:22 and argued that the poles will somehow this time underestimate you by the fact is the polar, as john go back and forth, they go back and forth within a cycle, and they go back i can forth when you compare over a bunch of years, ariane, great to see you this morning. i had to say, we're going to have much more on the stunning political development president biden challenging donald trump to a debate. next month. as soon as next month, which would be by my count here. and the earliest general election debates we've ever hot absolutely. you know, you go back to 1980 one debate occurred in late october. i've

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this isn't to diagnose pre-eclampsia. instead, it's done to assess someone's risk i've developing pre-eclampsia during the course of their pregnancy. and because this test can be done in the first trimester, that's what really sets it apart as helping people evaluate their risk. now, what we know about it, it comes with the list price of about $240. that's the cost without insurance. and lab core says it has 90% sent sensitivity. so that means it can accurately identify someone at high-risk of pre-eclampsia, about 90% of the time. and your doctor would have to order this test for you. so when a doctor's visit, you and your physician would talk about your risk, how you're feeling during your pregnancy, your risk factors, and if they think this test could benefit you, then they would order it and how it works. it looks at four data points to our biomarkers in the blood. the third data point is a blood pressure measurement, and the fourth data point is taken from an ultrasound. it

assesses those data points and then presents an estimated risk assessment. now, sarah, i did speak with the american college of obstetricians and gynecologists about this. and they said this test is not change current clinical guidance around pre-eclampsia. but knowing your risk early does come with a benefit because if you do have high risk, you can then plan for potential complications. you can have more dr. visits. you can check your blood pressure at home potentially or if you are seen as a candidate, your doctor might recommend for you to take a low dose aspirin to reduce your risks. so that's the conversation we're hearing around this new screening tool that was just released today. >> so what makes someone at higher risk, for example, for pre-eclampsia, the risk factors we know if you have a family history of preeclampsia, if you have obesity, if you personally had a history of high blood pressure before pregnancy and also pre-eclampsia is associated with other risk

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were killed officials say the victims were all from mexico. they were here on temporary agricultural worker visas. cnn's carlos suarez is with width the latest carlos, what are you learning? >> well, i'm john. good morning. so talk about a terrible and heartbreaking story of the accident happened in marion county, florida. that's about 90 minutes northwest of orlando. now, the sheriff's office said that at the time here the bus was taking these farm workers to a farm harm when the driver of another car sideswiped this bus causing the driver of that bus to lose control crash through a fence and that bus overturned. as you noted, john and all aid workers were killed in this accident, at least 40 other workers were hurt. all of this happened yesterday morning on 6305 in the morning here in central florida we're told that all of these workers were in the on a temporary agricultural

of visa. now the driver has been identified as 41 year-old brian mclean, howard. and as you said, john, he hasn't been charged with eight counts of dui, manslaughter. now, the sheriff's office did not release any other details about the state of this 41 year-old exactly what he may have been under the influence at the time of this accident officials really hang not provided additional information since all of this happened yesterday morning. as you noted, all of the heat farm workers that died were from mexico, were told all of them were from rather all of them were men. and that consulate officials in orlando are in contact with mexican officials at this hour trying to notify all of the families that were involved in in this back in mexico. john, what an awful, awful story. carlos suarez, thank you very much for that, sarah. all right. google has announced it's adding ai to it's ubiquitous search, n1, engine saying thanks to its

gemini function, google will do the googling for you, convenient for users. sure, but it's not good for news for everyone. cnn's business tech reporter clare duffy has more clear. gemini is google's answer to chatgpt, which of course is taking the country by storm. but gemini is also sort of giving these answers and could really do some damage to content creators create news content creators yeah, sarah google had been really worried that generative ai tools like chat-gpt could replace the need for its search engine. so it is bringing artificial intelligence to start. this is going to mean some major changes in terms of how users interact with google and what they see on their search results. the biggest change is that google is going to be rolling out these ai search results summaries these sort of paragraphs of information that people will see at the top of their search results. that's potentially going to remove the need for people to click on a bunch of links instead, google will be doing the reading of

those links for people and it's ai will be writing an answer to their question and more natural language the search engine, it's also going to be able to handle more complex queries that in the past could have required people to do multiple searches. so for users, google is really trying to remove the need to sort of become a search expert to have the right keywords and do multiple searches instead, google wants to give them those answers in the way that people might be getting information from a smart friends but to your point, this is potentially going to have really serious consequences for news publishers, for blogs, for other people, other creatives that publish information on the internet, they're worried that if people start to rely on these summaries rather than clicking on links that they'll no longer need to read that first-party information and that people will lose the traffic from google that off and allows them to sell ads and make money. now, google does say that it will be still including links in those ai summaries. and the company actually told us that it believes that those links will now be getting more traffic than they would in a

traditional ten blue links search results page. but kind of cold comfort at this 0.2 news publishers we have for a long time had to fight against the rising tide, the changing tides of google in terms of how it delivers search traffic, they're worried that this could be a really significant change thereof clare duffy. thank you so much. really appreciate it. john. >> all right. we have some breaking news, new numbers, just in on inflation. rahel solomon is here with me. >> i think these are the kind of numbers people were hoping for. i think you're right. yes. so this was report for the first time this year that actually came in la hi, and with expectations, actually slightly even better in some areas. so that is a welcome sign. so let's talk about sort of cpi, the consumer price index. when you think cpi, you think a basket of goods and services, right? and then the change in the price. >> so cpi on a broad level, on an annual basis, came in at 3.4% that is in line with expectations patients also slightly better than the month

prior. >> i want to point out that it's much better than the peak that we saw in june of 2022. but i should say that the fed's target is actually 2% different inflation report, but it's closer to 2%. so we're still quite a ways from there. if you take a look at the monthly sort of changes in prices this actually came in better than what we were expecting. so on a monthly basis, prices in the index increase 0.3%. that is slightly better than we were expecting, also slightly better than the month prior. so you'll take the good news where you can see it let's talk about core. horror is really important, especially in this environment because it's, it gives us a sense of underlying inflation. you take away volatile categories like food, volatile categories like energy, energy obviously can be impacted by geopolitics food can be impacted by whether if you take a look at that, that also came in line with expectations. and the reason why that's so remarkable is because all year, january, february, march, all of those

inflation reports were hotter than expected. so this is some welcome news it is really quickly in terms of how people are feeling. there's feeling it. obviously. but is wages, right? so if you've changed jobs, if you've gotten a pay raise, you probably seen your raises, your raise increased more than inflation. so that's a bit of relief although you can't talk about cpi this week without talking about ppi yesterday, which is wholesale inflation. and that was hotter than we were expecting. so it's a mixed bag, but at least this report, at least right now it's a welcoming know, you just dumped a lot of data on us. it really really interesting the and compelling way. >> don't get me wrong. but the bottom line here is is this little doubt der right there. yeah. >> that's what people were hoping for. what people haven't seen in awhile because you were getting seeing that little increase, right there, like things have started to move up, which had really, wow, that's supposed to be an arrow.

but things had started to move up and now it looks like they're starting to move back down hopefully closer and closer. and closer to 2% and 2% is when the fed might start to feel like, they can quit it with a rate hike. >> yes, much better than it was a year or a couple of years ago, not nearly as good as it was for many, many years. so people still feeling it, but this might put rate cuts back in play for the fig, maybe, maybe not this summer, but maybe in the fall. >> all right. rahel solomon. thank you for all of us. that was really good. >> ahead. she's getting another chance for love later in life, shouldn't we? all we speak with the new golden bachelor read about the new show also, new way on the way to ukraine's front lines of secretary of state, antony blinken wraps up his trip there. >> that's all i had health this morning, brought to you by amgen learn more about disease at is it you were diagnosed

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white hot spotlight since the golden bachelor reignited the abc franchise into a pop culture phenomenon and shattered stereotypes in our culture. i feel like growing old is not a dignified thing. you're just supposed to kinda fade in the back, take a backseat to the next generation and i'm hoping that we changed that a little bit, that we'd looked like we're still fun and energetic and we know how to use our phones. but the journey doesn't come without risk. >> the golden bachelor's, gerry turner and contestant to recent nice announced they're split just three months after their televised wedding. were you surprised? >> it was surprised they were like the perfect couple. and i applaud that they jumped into this process with both feet and they were ready to find love and i also applaud them that when they discovered it wasn't perfect that they were that they called it quits and it's not the end of the world. >> this 72 year-old turner, a widower, married for 43 years, also faced scrutiny over his past in whether he was as authentic as he seemed. did you

ever feel like he misrepresented himself to you? >> not at all. in fact, i learned so much from him about opening up your heart and being vulnerable as for her turn in the hotseat, vasos says, don't expect her to rush into marriage and her kids will once again come first. >> they think it's really fun and like what a cool experience from my daughter, erica, and my son luke are a little like a little cringy like don't kiss a guy on tv. this is going to be really embarrassing, but mom isn't embarrassed at 61, she's ready to be a bachelorette for the ages, all ages. >> there's a lot of knowledge that we have insider us because we've lived life whether or not you have ever watched the show, if you are a fan of the show, the golden bachelor became a cultural phenomenon. >> sarah, because of this whole notion of dating later in life, why not? ahed find love later

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to try to both either cyber attack, our infrastructure or more likely spread misinformation and to try to pin americans against americans. secondly, i think we've got to acknowledge in 2024 americans for whatever reason, are a lot more willing to believe crazy conspiracy theories and a lot less willing to accept as truth. things coming from the federal government and then third is as you pointed out before the break, john artificial intelligence brings new tools where we could change with deep fakes your face, my face our voices in ways that scale and speed that are unprecedented. you put those three factors together and you've got the potential for a toxin the cms, we've got enough disagreements between ourselves as americans. we don't need foreign governments trying to interfere and mess with our elections. >> do you have any intelligence that you're willing to share on for whom some of these foreign governments might be putting their thumbs on the

scale for well it has been widely reported. >> this is not simply attacking us. that russia for example it has been supporting candidates in europe. that are more pro russian. and less pro-ukraine. we've seen a country like slovakia go from about 75% of the people frankly, supporting ukraine to now they have a pro russian president and over half the slovakian people believed that the united states started the war in ukraine. that was due to a great deal of russian bots, russian disinformation widely spread across that country. and frankly, european elections take place in june. i think that may be a precursor. it principally through some of the russian tactics we might see in america six months from now on the issue of russia and ukraine, there is new information coming out about a russian gains, particularly in

the north around the city of kharkiv how concerned are you that ukraine may be? >> losing right now i'll john, it was a huge mistake that we went six months without providing ukraine that necessary very aid. >> thank goodness. the speaker and others finally brought that bill to the floor. and again, i think it was a great show of support, over 80% of the house 80% of the senate supported that aid to ukraine were getting it there as quickly as possible. we can't question the ukrainians courage and in bravery, but they've got to have the arms. and i think the full component of that military assistance won't be fully there until unfortunately middle of summer, i think if the ukrainians can stabilize, they're leinz, i think it'll be a bit of a standoff during the summer, but as we saw when the ukrainians tried to advance last year, it's tough to make

advances on a broad basis with the level of drones and mining activity. if the russians try the same against the ukrainians if they have the patient arms, they will be able to hold the line we have 35 seconds left, center. >> president biden just challenged donald trump to two debates. the first one as soon as june, just want to know your reaction to perhaps general election debates four months before election day listen, i think that would be a i'm glad the president has stepped up and said that. >> i think when the vast majority of american to have not focused on the elections really at this point, start to realize it's the kind of really incredibly bitter grievance written language that president trump has been using. he doesn't lay out any vision for future of the country. it's all about him and his his enemies real and imagined. and i think the more that gets out there and in a debate would be a good format. i think that would be good professor and biden