couple of hours ago, a horrible and as a check on a desk are 13 people injured? just a postal office? >> two days ago. again horrible attack on odesa using a missile with a cluster head against civilians, emissions we just see it over and over again in odesa in heart all peaceful cities, but also on the front line, that's why it's so good that congress supported this legislation. we are so grateful for it. but the work is not over with this. it actually just begins and we have to turn it as soon as possible into air defense. and all they needed capabilities in order to be able to get them to ukraine as soon as possible. >> ambassador marker over. thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thank you and thanks so much to all of you for joining us. >> ac30 60 starts now tonight

are three 60 bodycam footage you'll see first on three 60 of new york police moving in on protesters at columbia university that a new details from cnn's julia vargas jones, who brought us exclusive reporting last night from campus. >> as it all went down. also tonight, libre from coast to coast. these protests spread to more schools with communities and police struggling over how to respond and with his trial and recess today, the former president goes campaigning, trying to make student unrest of voting issue. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin again tonight with the latest from university campuses nationwide, where in just the last 24 hours, hundreds of demonstrators have been arrested the lion's share at new york's columbia university late last night. last night we brought you an exclusive look as it happened from cnn's julia vargas jones and our photographer, we're the only television crew broadcasting live from campus now tonight, another exclusive seen as john miller himself, a former new york deputy police commissioner

is the first and only reported to obtain nypd body cam video from officers as they carried out the operation last night in joins us now, so i haven't seen the video tell us about it. well, we've been talking past 24 hours about according to columbia university's president, a protester snuck into the building and then hit there till after the building was closed. and then covertly lead in dozens of other people who then took over the building are barricaded. it with an elaborate network and layers of debris and furniture and chains and lots and bicycle locks and smashed all the security cameras so police to retake that building really had their work cut out for them. and this is their video from their bodycam of going into hamilton hall let's take a look the retaking of hamilton hall by the nypd at the front door, students singing a protest song

this is two right? the first layer, the tangle of barricades metal tables and chairs stacked and tied to the doorway outside police break a window through a vestibule more furniture and debris the door changed shut police use a high powered electric saw then a hydraulic tool, the jaws of life, in an attempt to breach the door. but it wouldn't budge finally they break through confronted by another tangling layers of furniture, chains, and metal

grading police said unable to see beyond the barricades, they deploy distraction devices upon entry with, loud bangs and blinding flashes to disorient anyone who might have posed a threat it took six minutes and 40 seconds to reach the layers of barricades, to reach the protesters who had been holding the building as one protester appeared just to advance towards kalisa, a second protester wrestled him to the ground police reach a stairwell and advance upwards through the building, finding more locks jane's barricades but no more

protesters and you just got to be new information from the nypd about who they arrested last name. so the rest at about 40 people that were in that first floor of the building and they have now taken that identification of the 40 people their names, pedigree, and provided that to columbia university he so the university can determine how many of these people were students how many, if any, were not students, and where they were from i just want to bring into columbia graduate student and cnn reported julia vargas jones, who brought us exclusive reporting from campus, just steps away from hamilton hall as police went in. >> julia, first of all, you in your photographer did a great job who is your photographer's name? >> cream kataib in. okay. you guys did a great job last night. what you did this on like your cell phone. i know your battery was dying. this one? yeah. >> that was it. the broken one, broken string. yeah. >> well, we appreciate it so what is it like seeing that i'm you were on the outside and the beginning of that, you saw that that line that we're just seeing that for the first time. well so right when that

started, we couldn't see any of that. right. so they push us out and i was live with you at the time. they pushed us out about at least 50 yards and there was blockage and await. we couldn't see anything that was happening aside from police lines and lines of police officers going past the now the bleachers for the graduation event that's coming up in a couple weeks. and then coming back on the other side. so we had we were in this blind spot, but we didn't know from being there all de that there was a lot of stuff just keeping police from entering as well as a few dozen students on the outside. now, i'm interested in that number of about 40 people in sign because we really didn't know how many people were inside the protesters. i'm you were out there. they weren't really talking to anybody with a camera who was there, not just anybody with a camera, even student press. it was really difficult. and i think in their attempt to protect their identities, to try and remain anonymous, i think that ended up cranial big

barrier for us to just get some of the basic information out. i want to play johnson sound from the new york police department, deputy commissioner of intelligence, intelligence and counterterrorism. >> let's listen these students don't come in the doors knowing how to barricade themselves behind barriers that they've created. >> these are all skills that are taught and learned. and that presents a problem yesterday, new york's mayor had talked about outside agitators. >> that is there may be people from outside. we don't know the makeup of the people inside the building yet. the outside agitators is kind of a common trope. also used against protesters in past decades, frankly, going back for a long time. so is it clear who the people from the building mean were they all students? were some of them outsiders. do we know? >> so they're still going through that, but i think what the mayor was talking about was an extraordinarily well national figure in the protest

movement. lisa fithian, 60 protests, organizer from austin texas. part of occupy wall street, part of occupy city hall, part of so many protests, seattle across the country arrived at columbia on monday afternoon that was just before they took that building she's on video helping students with a table that they are using a barricade the door. so the question that the nypd was looking at is as this encampment on the west lawn was losing steam did a professional organizer come in and say, if you want to have an impact, you need disruption now, lisa fithian, for the record, talk to us at cnn and said, we weren't there to take over the building that just happened. but the question that the deputy commissioner for intelligence my former job of rebecca weiner raises is where

do they suddenly get this idea? and all the tactics and techniques for the kind of barrier. >> when you see this video, i mean, what stands out to you is, as we watch it what stands out to me is this was this was extraordinarily well planned and not something that they would have thought of on their own based on the tactics and techniques they used entering the building, having an agent hide inside, then breaking all the security cameras to cut off the view of i mean, there is a history of taking over buildings columbia going back going back to 1968, days, they held people hostage. and in fact, in 1960 because the hamilton hall, this was the first building they took over and the police response was a lot more violent and aggressive in terms of how the students and police fought there in this case, it just seemed that they're negotiations reached

an impasse and the coincidental arrival of a national person who trains protesters is something that caught authorities attention. >> what's campus like today would or reaction benign. >> it's quite a different scene, anderson, it's it was quite hi, it it was eerie there weren't a lot of students and campus as you know, not many students are allowed in general. and only if you live there for your essential staff. so it was weird to see campus. so empty, so close to finals, i mean, at 10:00 a.m. usually it's packed before late for class. there's life, but classes are done it's now people studying for finals there are still classes. i am still in classes, but now they're all on zoom and everything is digital now. and then there is something that struck me this morning as i as i walked outside of pulitzer hall, was seeing the marks of the tents that they left on the lawn. i'm sure you've seen that picture of just that's to me was kind of a poetic scar of a columbia has been through in

the past few weeks and especially in the past graduation ceremonies when may 15th, because that would obviously be targeted for protesters if they've they've asked police to stay on campus because i think what columbia has experiences they cleared that west lawn once before but that's where they have the commencement. and now it's okay. we've taken the ground again, we've taken the building back now we need to hold it between now and commencement. >> john miller. thank you. julia vargas jones. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> coming up next to los angeles where there wasn't a violent incident on the ucla campus involving israel supporters and anti-israel demonstrators, after which classes were canceled today, seems nick watt is there for us tonight. so what's been the reaction, what happened last night anderson, people are shocked and stunned by what happened last night. >> the college spokesperson said this, that they are sickened by this violence. and it must end i spoken to some jewish students here who were also shocked. the protestors

themselves listen, they are very rightly rattled by what happened, but they are determined to stay during the day today. they've actually been reinforcing these barricades behind me, which is exactly where this incident happened last night take a look at just what happened here late night into the early morning at ucla counter protesters pro israel protesters, among them, some clearly not students breached the barricades around a pro-palestinian and cabinet firecrackers thrown in cones and more flying through the dark i miss pepper spray from inside that tamp. the college newspaper photographed at counter protester spraying from an aerosol can daily bruin reporters on the scene were slapped an indirectly sprayed with irritants. absolutely detestable violence said, la's mayor karen bass, you see officials say 15 the injured, one hospitalized, and they promise an independent external review ever since this

encampment sprang up thursday morning, tension has been mounting. the first scuffles thursday afternoon, more over the weekend, hence, the barriers and the buffer zone that was breached last night, the university has allowed the protesters to control cool, who enters the can't monday, a jewish student posted this protesters wealth outside of their encampment. he says, blocking his way. >> they're not letting me walk in my class is over there. i want to use that entrance, ucla called this a parent and remove those barriers then last night, this a what, happened last night was an attack on our encampment by zionist thugs. >> that the university did nothing to stop. >> this morning at the university of wisconsin madison law enforcement did get involved campus police clashing with protesters while clearing a pro-palestinian encampment for law enforcement officers were injured. dozens of protesters arrested. >> they started pushing them, they started shoving them.

students were held down with baton most were released without citations. college officials say it's unclear how many were affiliated with the school. >> they say some resisted arrest and say peaceful protests that abide by campus rules are still alive just no tents. we are grateful that our protests refresh still here and they are exercising their first amendment right back at ucla play today. >> much more law enforcement on site and all classes are canceled. the buffer zone between the encampment and everyone else has expanded to about half the length of a football field this afternoon, just outside the barrier faculty in solidarity with the pro palestinians, shame on you to down by pro israeli protesters. just a couple of faculty and students from either side trying to find even a sliver of common ground so were there no campus police at the very least at that location last night and has the police

response last night or lack of have been viewed by the community? there there were very few campus security here and they frankly didn't do much. and there has been a lot of criticism of the response governor gavin newsom posted this morning, the limited and delayed campus law enforcement response at ucla last night was unacceptable and demands, answers. we've asked for answering we're still waiting for them. ucla says that they're carrying out an internal investigation, gathering information, but listen, whatever college administrators do, they're going to get criticized. you see what happened at columbia last night at wisconsin this morning where they go in heavy-handed, they get criticized. you see what happened here. they hang back, they get criticized. but there is now a very different posture. i'm looking at about a dozen lapd officers there. we've had california highway patrol here all day. lapd choppers circling around. so they are clearly they've clearly learned a lesson from last night and they do not want

that to happen again. but right now, the reality here, anderson is, you've got protesters in there who were scared. you've got doing students out on the campus who were scared. no one is happy and it doesn't seem to be any end in sight either the president of the whole uc system today said that they will clear this encampment, but only at the appropriate time now, i don't know what that means and the commencement the main commencement spent events here aren't until the middle of june, so the uc system is saying we will not divest, which is the demand of the protesters, the protestors saying they will not leave. so what do you got? you've got classes canceled and you've got dozens, if not hundreds. now, of officers on this campus trying to keep an uneasy peace and no one feels safe and no one's happy and nick watt, thank you. >> appreciate it. next to the former president in blaming the current one for campus on ras, what voters make of that issue and others, the new numbers from cnn's harry enten and later the next strange twist and republican marjorie taylor greene's push to unseat the

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american towns, your towns and villages. it's just determined to create they conditions for an october 7 style attack right here in america. >> well, that last bit refers to discussion for puerto by cbs news about bringing a limited number of people from gaza with close american relatives into the country. not massive numbers as the former president was saying, and it's not administration and policy yet from wisconsin, the former president went to freeland michigan. cnn's kristen holmes is therefore, tonight's the prison just wrapped up remarks in michigan, what more do it? what more can you tell us anderson in his one day out of the courtroom, he spent here in michigan railing against that new york hush money trial complaining about the gag order and attacking the judge. >> all of this, of course, just one day after that, judge, find him $9,000 for violating the gag order in the first place, he has another gag order hearing tomorrow. now, you mentioned some of what he said in wisconsin. i want to point out two other notable moments. one, he said that people were

thrilled at the overturning of roe v. wade this is particularly notable given what today is. it is a day that that's six-week abortion ban was put into effect in florida. florida, something that people are not overwhelmingly thrilled with. the other thing that he mentioned was something that had been deeply reported, but to my knowledge, he had never said in detail was about january 6. he'd actually confirmed the reporting that when he got into his car that de after his rally he told the secret service to take him down to the capital. he wanted to see what was going on and they told him he could not go these again, were things that we had not heard all the way into that detail before. >> it's also telling that his first day of rallies during this trial is spent in michigan and wisconsin, both states that he lost, but the races there we're very close yeah you want and 2016 lost in 2020. and if you talk to any of his advisers, they call them must-win states, and they really acknowledged that he's probably going to have to win those two states if he wants to go back to the white house,

you're going to see him here a lot more. they are trying to find voters outside of his base to court. they believed that his voters will show up. his base will show up no matter what, but what they're going to do here for strategy is trying to find voters who maybe have a preference or have thought about voting for donald trump and bring them out to the polls in november, housing been spending the bulk of his time when he's not in the courtroom well a lot of it is complaining that he should be on the campaign trail, but this is really the first time that we had seen him do events even today, he said he had to do two events today because he wasn't the courtroom. >> but this is the first time we've actually seen that. no, no, it's not all because of his own issues. we know that there was a weather issue at a rally, two weeks ago, but besides that, he has had dinners at trump tower. he wouldn't played golf at bedminster. he is held fundraiser after fundraiser, and they have had some local campaign stops politically motivated stop to a bodega. he also went and spoke to a union workers of construction workers trying to chip away at biden's working class voter all in new

york. so he could stay there there because he has two for the trial. now, when it comes to next week and the week after, we know this weekend, he's going to be at florida for the rnc's spring were treat but after that, we don't know what actual events he has. he has one rally in a saturday, next wednesday on clear unclear what he's going to be doing around his court days. we do know he does have a series of fundraisers thumb at least two weeks from now on a wednesday, he has to fundraisers back-to-back anderson, kristen holmes. thank you. as kristen mentioned, the form president weighed in on abortion today. this comes as florida six-week abortion ban went into effect, as kristen said, and vice president harris and jacksonville made sure to put a return address on it. >> trump was the president who took away the protections of road because of donald trump, more than 20 states have abortion bans. trump abortion ban from abortion ban. but trump abortion ban former president donald trump did this a second trump term would be even worse. trump wants us to

believe he will not sign a national ban if donald trump gets the chance, he will sign a national abortion ban. this truly is a health care crisis and donald trump is the architect so with one side highlighting abortion is one voting issue and the other side leaning into student unrest. >> the question is, what kind of a punch does each carry with voters here with some numbers, senior data reporter harry enten. so when you look at issues like abortion law and order, israel-hamas war, who to voters prefer button yeah, i will tell you president biden is praying, praying to the electoral gods that the 2024 election is about abortion. it is a rare issue on which voters favorite him over former president trump. it's a double-digit advantage. he does not want this election to be about law and order, where donald trump holds a doubled that advantage. he does not want it to be about the israel-hamas war were again, trump holds the advantage and more than that, it divides the

democratic base between older democrats were more favorable towards israel and younger democrats who are more favorable towards the palestinians. and obviously he doesn't want the election to be about the economy either, which is another, of course, important issue so what a voter say are the most important issues right now? yeah. so if you look at it, i don't think it's a big surprise that donald trump is trying to turn the israel-hamas war into a crime issue, into a law and order issue. why it's because if you look, the israel-hamas war in terms of voters who say it's extremely important to your 2024 vote. it's only 26%, a considerably higher proportion of the electric, say crime is important, right? and that's of course an issue on which donald trump, houlton edge. now, obviously, joe biden wants to have this election be about abortion. but again, that comes in under, comes in under crime, and more than that, i mentioned the economy that actually is the number one issue that's more than 60% of voters say that's extremely important to their 2024 vote. so basically anderson, if you're looking at the top issues, those match up much more highly with the issues that donald trump does well on.

and compared to abortion, which of course ranks lower down. >> and when it goes to the israel-hamas war, where does that compare to other conflicts? >> yeah. so we were talking before before we came on here and, you know, i mentioned the vietnam war, the protests, a lot of people, especially who are pro-palestinian for these protests, want to make comparisons. the vietnam war and those protests, right? but if you look at the polling americans do not see them on anywhere near the same level back in 1968, if you ask, what was the most important problem? number one, was the vietnam now more that was well under the 40s, you look now at the most important problem. you know where the israel-hamas war ranks. it ranks 17th on the list of issues, just 2% of americans say that's the most important problem right now. so these are just not anywhere on the same level. despite the fact that many on the pro-palestinian sayyed want to put on the same level as the vietnam war protests harry enten, thanks very much. thank you. coming up, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene says next week, she'll pull the trigger on a vote to oust house speaker johnson. now republicans don't sound

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disgusting retire the chaos are tired of anarchy, gets the wrong move at the wrong time by the long people. >> this is a distraction and i think it's a mistake. >> would they one vote margin? johnson lacks the votes to stay in power, would gop support alone, but democrats, plaintiffs save him in next week's vote this is unprecedented that somebody's foe in leadership, the leadership of the democratic party, would offer to save the leader of the republican party, top democrats praise johnson for cutting the series of bipartisan deals, including advancing $61 billion in aid to ukraine, even though it enraged the right wing, it's time to end. >> this chapter of pro putin obstruction. >> it's a shift from almost seven months ago when democrats voted with eight republicans to make kevin mccarthy the first ever speaker ousted and the floor, kevin mccarthy you guys

voted him out. why not? what's different now? >> i think what we saw with former speaker mccarthy was he wanted to blame democrats the entire time. i disagree with speaker johnson and the number of ways but he lived up to his commitments to put this bill on the floor. >> they brought democrats are objecting. >> i certainly will not be voting to support mike johnson. >> we can't continue to do that. >> every time they want to, they want to do that but, you know, vacate the speaker. >> yet johnson has the support of gop congressman matt gaetz, who led the charge to oust mccarthy, i think in an election year right now, it probably doesn't portend it too well. >> gop critics agree, are you going to support them? >> very troubled by the leadership we've seen where you haven't had conservative leadership i don't think the timing sorry for that. >> but republicans worry greene's effort will hurt their chances in november, we have to

understand this is not a junior high school reality television show everything that we do in the house of representatives could be in the best interests of getting donald trump re-elected this guy right here mano joins us now from capitol hill. so how does the former president factor into this yeah, actually this is a rare situation where there has been some daylight between marjorie taylor greene and the former president. >> actually in fact, donald trump is a publicly express, some support from my johnson, especially so when they were down in mar-a-lago together, trump also did not come out and flatly opposed that $61 billion in aid to ukraine. and he also has indicated he has some concerns, but moving down the road of vacating the speakership, but nevertheless, marjorie taylor greene has gotten another route. i've put the question to her twice today about whether she's doing this in defiance. of donald trump. first, you put on her maga hands. there's no bigger supported that her than they have donald trump than her. and then later tonight, i asked her about the concerns from a number of trump allies if this got hurt down, trump's ability

to take back the white house and she said, quote, mike johnson is hurting our efforts to win. she said mike johnson the absolutely destroying our efforts to have the majority in november. so you can see anderson, she's still pressing ahead. the question is if and when this fails next week, that she continued to try to force a vote. she did not answer that question earlier today. >> mano, thanks very much. as you heard, democrats are divided about whether they would assist speaker johnson just prefer airtime. i spoke to democratic congressman eric swalwell about the feelings inside his caucus kurtzman swalwell, i appreciate you joining us. where do you stand on this? do you think democrats should save speaker johnson job next week it's not about speaker johnson's job, it's about doing the job every day that americans expect us to do, which is to get things done. >> so to pay our bills and lift the debt ceiling to avoid government shutdowns to help keep ukraine in the fight. and on all of those votes the majority of the votes came from democrats. and so if chaos agents like marjorie taylor greene and others want to just send us in back into chaos at

the expense of getting things done. i do agree with our democratic leadership that we should avoid that. whether we are in in charge of the house are not getting things done has to be the priority so i want to play something that marjorie taylor greene said about house democrats and speaker johnson earlier today mike johnson is not capable of that job. >> he has proven it over and over again now, we have hakeem jeffries and the democrats coming out embracing mike johnson. >> with a warm hug and a big wet, sloppy kiss so congresswoman green and congressman massie, he was also supporting the effort to oust johnson are saying that this will provide voters with a list of members who stand with the speaker going into elections, you're running for reelection this year. are you worried about losing votes if if you save speaker johnson's job

effectively? >> no, i promised i'd promised from the very beginning, when i went to congress, sayyed work with anyone who wanted to work with me to get things done. and i think that's the mindset of our leadership. and if marjorie taylor greene wants to say that democrats are embracing speaker johnson with a warm hug it's not so much that as we are issuing a stay away order to marjorie taylor greene and the other chaos agents who are seeking to just bring this place to a standstill is there's so many issues that we have to work on it. we're not going to agree on everything was speaker johnson certainly. but on the priorities that i just laid out earlier, avoiding shutdowns, paying in our bills, helping ukraine where there's consensus, we will continue to deliver on it. >> i mean, what does it say to you that so many of your house colleagues on both sides of the aisle are tired of the drama and the chaos and actually agree that green is basically wreaking havoc in congress it's not a bad thing. >> and i hope that it leads to us taking on more issues.

>> the select committee on china, a bipartisan effort put out a lot of recommendations on what we can do to counter china. and i hope again, we find ways to work together on that and bring that legislation to the floor. we have a potential shutdown again in september, and so we'll need to work together to avoid that. it actually feels good to vote with republicans for the sake of the country. rather than the partisan politics that the marjorie taylor greene's and the donald trump's, i would rather see us engaging yeah, it does even have anybody just take the speaker's job it is even clear who's has in mind there's no one who could win on the republican side again, they just want chaos and hakeem jeffries has essentially been the functional speaker and the case will have to make to the voters is that he should be the formal speaker because he has kept us the united, he has collaborated when it means getting things done. and we can't give the keys to government back to many of

these individuals who will, again, just gum up the works because they'd rather have the fame then doing anything to help people they represent congressman eric swalwell. >> thank you. >> coming. i pleasure coming up protests unfolding on yet another new york campus in shimon prokupecz is there for us tonight? also the question we've been asking every ever since these demonstrations began. just who's taking part some answers at one university at least ahead you know that thing your family does yeah. that thing someone made it a thing way back in the day but where did it come from? and how did again, all the way to you curious? >> ancestry can help you find out because that thing has a story and it's still being written see for yourself and ancestry we'd never spoken,

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crowd gathered here outside an encampment, actually that the university has on canvas i am very large encampment. it's on the university property and what's really interesting here is that there's actually nyu security that is guarding the encampment. encampment, making sure that only nyu students are entering the encampment quite different from what we saw the other night when we went to the university of of pennsylvania in philadelphia to try and figure out exactly who's behind some of these protests, who's attending them, who's sleeping in the encampments, and here's what we found the campus at the university of pennsylvania is open to the public. you guys are students here are they students are run. i don't think so. >> do you work for the school or thank you for more than a week the encampment has grown

tents filled with people, but who are they i'm asking the suspicion runs both ways. >> i don't know. are you on what cnn and we were just asking people are you in your frame? we're cnn. >> one man who was showing his face is having a tough time with the crowd here. >> this man sole supporter of israel, he's actually not even from israel. >> he's not israel he's not two which is actually christian, but he said he felt it needs to come out here. noise is support for israel. so what's just seeing every time he speaks, every time he says something that group here, they follow him around. they put this blue tarp behind him and they tried to interrupt what he's saying. >> so they're bringing out the speaker now to try and drown. >> now, what what he's saying

now, they have the speaker we spot a person named charlotte waving the flag of a terrorist organization. the popular front for the liberation of palestine. >> what was that flag that you are carrying? >> she's not i understand. but what was what was what was that flag you were counting? >> i don't do you know that that's lagger you were carrying is a terrorist organization are you aware of that? >> you were waving charlotte? charlotte, you were waving a very proudly charlotte they don't want to speak with us and flee before we can ask any more questions. you're not a student, right? >> okay. and he's not a student no. okay. so how come you're here if you're not students? >> we're supporting okay. but this is supposed to be for students, right or this i'm just curious, that's what i thought, but it seems like yes, people. >> yeah. yeah. >> you know, suiting here at this at this school i could, be. >> a could be not.

>> okay. when you're first he said, no, i don't know. i'm just that's a question for the cops and they come out okay. >> are you students here do you know are you a student here? no. okay. >> you've been camping out here on campus and you're not a student. >> look, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of community members yeah so was it clearly what percentage that group was actually students at upenn no, it wasn't clear. >> most of the people anderson that i spoke to were actually not students there were a few students, but most of them were outside the encampment. and every time i try to talk to them, they would refuse to speak to me as he saw there, but no, it wasn't clear pen is a very open campus. there many entrances and out of the campus. so people can easily just come on campus, but the police are there. there's really no one asking any questions and they're just allow to remain in this enhancement of their are some

hostility towards some other jewish kids who had an approach, approach. >> the encampment and you could just tell that there was a certain tension there. the longer we stay, the more tense it became. >> and really was quite different than any of the other encampments. hi had been to like at columbia. certainly this one here at nyu. it's just quite different in trying to ask people questions about who they simply we're and they just refuse to speak to some of prokupecz. >> appreciate it. thank you for next on the war at the center of these demonstrations and how it's being waged. we've got an update on a deadly israeli airstrike in gaza. we told you about just two weeks ago, a young girl named sure. head, one of ten children killed while playing outside our jeremy diamond has been trying to get answers from the idf, from the israeli military. now, they've finally responded what they are saying and not saying about the strike. next in here

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>> i'll draw scramble on the ucla campus in los angeles. this is cnn an update now in a deadly israeli airstrike in central gaza, we first told you about two weeks ago, and we want to warn you if you have children nearby, you might want them to leave the room der to the graphic, video, and story you're about to see this is 10-year-old ahead, who was playing foosball with her friends when she was killed in an airstrike she nine other children were killed that day at the time, the israeli military didn't say much about the strike. >> now, they finally responded to our questions from jeremy diamond, who has also spoken with schatz family. here's his report this grainy home video is the closest ammonia owdetallah will ever get to seeing her ten year-old daughter? a stack of school certificates a wardrobe of her favorite close, the perfume she used to wear. all that remains of the daughter, mona poured everything into there is no

shah had now every time she came in, she said mom, i would say my soul, my so my soul is gone through shahzad was one of ten children killed when an israeli airstrike hit the crowded street and the alma ghazi refugee camp where she was playing with her friends her pink pants, impossible to miss. among the small bodies splayed around a foosball table in the chaotic aftermath two weeks later, the israeli military still won't take responsibility for the strike that killed her cnn provided the idf with the coordinates and time of the attack based on metadata from two different phones in the immediate aftermath the idf said they did not have a record of that strike they said they carried out a strike at a different time than described and that the collateral damage as described in the query iri is not known to the idf. the idf

makes great efforts to mitigate harm to the civilian population from areas were strikes are being carried out evidence recovered, and documented by cnn at the scene of the strike paints. a very different picture of israeli military responsibility this circuit board and bits of shrapnel walls and shop steps distinctively pockmarked and a small crater, barely a foot wide. all pointing three munitions experts to the same conclusion carnage was likely caused by a precision guided munitions deployed by the israeli military. >> saying these stripes so many times, there's a relatively small crater in the road there's no large shrapnel holes fragmentation holds, it would have been which would have been caused by say, a mortar round born artillery. >> the fragmentation is consistent. so in your view, this strike was caused by a precision guided drone fired missile? >> absolutely. this is an israeli militia. the local

militias, the local forces do not have anything with this amounted sophistication before carrying out the strike, israeli drones would have surveil the omaha z refugee camp from above seconds later, the missile hits the street below landing in the middle of the road, just a few feet away from the foosball table, were shot ahead and her friends were playing that day, delivering certain death against all odds. these children have returned to play at the very same food was ball table, including some of shi'ites, friends i miss her a lot. some says wearing a necklace she had made her. >> what she says she was nearly killed with her friends going home moments before the strike to drink water others were not as lucky. >> eight year-old ahmed is fighting for his life, bleeding from his brain, his skull fractured his chances of surviving are slim. his doctor explains he is fighting not to

become the 11th child killed in that same strike jeremy diamond joins us now from jerusalem the idea that the kids are now playing that exact same spot. >> and that's the foosball. it's just it's rafiq, germany let me be clear. you've been pressing the idf for answers about the strike for two weeks they still can't locate this specific strike into records frankly understand this idea of statement raised more questions than it answered. the israeli military says, yes, there was a strike but that it wasn't at the time that we have provided based on the metadata from the phones, based on eyewitnesses, and they're not aware. they say of anyone being killed and nowhere in that statement anderson did they pledge to investigate this, to look into a strike that killed ten children? the evidence we've collected is now out there for the world to see. and i

certainly hope that these really military will reconsider and investigate this. shahzad lujain yusuf and the seven other children who were killed in a strike. i think they certainly deserve that minimum. >> so they're not saying the israeli military is not saying there was a target in this area. and therefore, that's why they're strike they're just they're just not acknowledging that there was a strike at all they say that there was a strike at a different time in that same area, but they're not saying what time that strike was what the target of that strike was. >> and they're saying that they're not aware of any casualties. so frankly, that's clearly not the strike that that we have documented here and that we have described to them. so their answer frankly, was was nonsensical at times, it didn't it didn't amount to what we've seen on the ground and what we've documented. and like i said, it just raises more questions than it actually answered. >> jeremy diamond. thank you very much. >> that's it for us. the news continues the source with kaitlan collins starts. now say tomorrow